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	<title>Comments on: Erie PA News, Sports and Events for Wednesday, April 22, 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Daphne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daphne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, I have a job and cannot be tethered to the computer all day as you apparently can.  If you read the transcripts from the bar scene, you will recall the the officer made the comment that there would be one less drug felon with whom to deal, (or words to that nature...I do not have the time presently to go back and re-read).  I believe that on-duty kfull-time officers know what&#039;s up as well as what is going down...I don&#039;t think he would have made sulch a comment without some pretty certain rational behind it.  That is how I have arrived at my conclusion... a conclusion by which I stand.   That&#039;s all I have time for. daph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, I have a job and cannot be tethered to the computer all day as you apparently can.  If you read the transcripts from the bar scene, you will recall the the officer made the comment that there would be one less drug felon with whom to deal, (or words to that nature&#8230;I do not have the time presently to go back and re-read).  I believe that on-duty kfull-time officers know what&#39;s up as well as what is going down&#8230;I don&#39;t think he would have made sulch a comment without some pretty certain rational behind it.  That is how I have arrived at my conclusion&#8230; a conclusion by which I stand.   That&#39;s all I have time for. daph</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to deflect the question there, Daphne, and instead attempt to insult me. A winner is you!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ll ask again - How do you know that Rondale Jennings was a drug dealer? What evidence brought you to this assumption? If you&#039;d rather not answer the question, just say so. If you want to continue to act immature, then don&#039;t respond - simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to deflect the question there, Daphne, and instead attempt to insult me. A winner is you!</p>
<p>I&#39;ll ask again &#8211; How do you know that Rondale Jennings was a drug dealer? What evidence brought you to this assumption? If you&#39;d rather not answer the question, just say so. If you want to continue to act immature, then don&#39;t respond &#8211; simple!</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ER Doc &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do understand. I would say that an elected official doing this is different. I realize the oath, but some how the picking and choosing who it applies to and that somehow it is the video that defines this NOT what is said. I believe in free speech. I think that people are human and say things about work. I know a Doc who did an ER rotation as a resident and he told the terribly insensitve story of how a motorcyclist came in and his leg had been ripped off. They washed it and tried to reattach it but were not able too. They played soccer with the leg before sending to the morgue  or whatever. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have never seen this kind of horrible situation ( a murder victim on the side walk or a leg without a body) and I am not sure how I would deal with it but the idea that these policemen should lose their job because of what they say off the clock and out of uniform, not doing anything illegal is upsetting to me. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We just had the governor of NY knowingly on tape make fun of a man in a wheel chair. Nothing will happen to him. But a policeman, who didn&#039;t know he was being taped, does something similar and we are looking to fire him? It just isn&#039;t the same. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again though if the union contract spells it out than I am ok with it but not on some &#039;unwritten&#039; theory of a &#039;higher standard&#039;. More often than not there&#039;s a double standard involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ER Doc </p>
<p>I do understand. I would say that an elected official doing this is different. I realize the oath, but some how the picking and choosing who it applies to and that somehow it is the video that defines this NOT what is said. I believe in free speech. I think that people are human and say things about work. I know a Doc who did an ER rotation as a resident and he told the terribly insensitve story of how a motorcyclist came in and his leg had been ripped off. They washed it and tried to reattach it but were not able too. They played soccer with the leg before sending to the morgue  or whatever. </p>
<p>I have never seen this kind of horrible situation ( a murder victim on the side walk or a leg without a body) and I am not sure how I would deal with it but the idea that these policemen should lose their job because of what they say off the clock and out of uniform, not doing anything illegal is upsetting to me. </p>
<p>We just had the governor of NY knowingly on tape make fun of a man in a wheel chair. Nothing will happen to him. But a policeman, who didn&#39;t know he was being taped, does something similar and we are looking to fire him? It just isn&#39;t the same. </p>
<p>Again though if the union contract spells it out than I am ok with it but not on some &#39;unwritten&#39; theory of a &#39;higher standard&#39;. More often than not there&#39;s a double standard involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Daphne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daphne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, Is that all you do all day is dispute people on the computer?  Is y our life truly this dull?!?!?   Or do you have another agenda thatyou&#039;re not willing to own up to.....????You cause me to chuckle anyway!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, Is that all you do all day is dispute people on the computer?  Is y our life truly this dull?!?!?   Or do you have another agenda thatyou&#39;re not willing to own up to&#8230;..????You cause me to chuckle anyway!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ER doc 5</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER doc 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line, Cousins is a public servant, therefore any public criticism of a public servant&#039;s conduct (while on paid duty or not) is perfectly acceptable and inherently necessary.  Any reputable police officer will tell you that when you take the sworn oath to serve and protect the citizens you work for (repeat that, CITIZENS YOU WORK FOR), your status as an officer of the law, and all of the standards of conduct that position holds, do not cease when you are out of uniform.  It is demanded that an officer of the law conduct themselves AT ALL TIMES in a manner that is not damaging to those HE REPRESENTS.  The right to free speech has nothing to at all to do with this.  When you take a sworn oath to serve the public, and are expected to follow that oath, your actions as a public servant must fall in line with that oath (whether you are on the clock or not - I don&#039;t understand why that is even being brought up, we are not talking about some factory worker here).  When you become a servant of the public, some of those rights that a private citizen enjoys with immunity are lessened, and in some cases, removed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Heavy D -- these comments of yours illustrates this point perfectly, and shows how you obviously just don&#039;t understand.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Heavy D says:  &quot;You make it sound like he was &#039;disrespecting&#039; the people TO     THEIR FACES. Certainly that conduct would warrant punishment. I don&#039;t say bad things to my clients or my boss TO THEIR FACES either, but after a few beers who doesn&#039;t complain about who they deal with at work? You are trying to make it sound like this is how he conducted himself at work.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Officer Cousins is a PUBLIC servant, he made his comments, and acted in a manner disrespectful to the Erie Police Dept. uniform in a PUBLIC place.  If you said bad things about your boss to his face, don&#039;t you think you would face repurcussions?  Well, that is exactly what Officer Cousins did - by saying those things he did in PUBLIC, he said them directly to his boss&#039; (the PUBLIC) face.  Get it?  &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Consider a different situation, Heavy D.  Say a public school principal, district attorney, judge, teacher, city councilman, etc. was caught on video in a similar situation.  You don&#039;t think that public servant would be judged by the public at large?  I have a feeling that you are the type that would be first to jump on that bandwagon, questioning that public servant&#039;s conduct, professionalism, and lack of judgment and how they should not be allowed to continue to pursue their profession.  Does the fact that we&#039;re talking about a police officer make any difference?  If it does, then you just aren&#039;t getting the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line, Cousins is a public servant, therefore any public criticism of a public servant&#39;s conduct (while on paid duty or not) is perfectly acceptable and inherently necessary.  Any reputable police officer will tell you that when you take the sworn oath to serve and protect the citizens you work for (repeat that, CITIZENS YOU WORK FOR), your status as an officer of the law, and all of the standards of conduct that position holds, do not cease when you are out of uniform.  It is demanded that an officer of the law conduct themselves AT ALL TIMES in a manner that is not damaging to those HE REPRESENTS.  The right to free speech has nothing to at all to do with this.  When you take a sworn oath to serve the public, and are expected to follow that oath, your actions as a public servant must fall in line with that oath (whether you are on the clock or not &#8211; I don&#39;t understand why that is even being brought up, we are not talking about some factory worker here).  When you become a servant of the public, some of those rights that a private citizen enjoys with immunity are lessened, and in some cases, removed.</p>
<p>Heavy D &#8212; these comments of yours illustrates this point perfectly, and shows how you obviously just don&#39;t understand.</p>
<p>     Heavy D says:  &#8220;You make it sound like he was &#39;disrespecting&#39; the people TO     THEIR FACES. Certainly that conduct would warrant punishment. I don&#39;t say bad things to my clients or my boss TO THEIR FACES either, but after a few beers who doesn&#39;t complain about who they deal with at work? You are trying to make it sound like this is how he conducted himself at work.&#8221;</p>
<p>Officer Cousins is a PUBLIC servant, he made his comments, and acted in a manner disrespectful to the Erie Police Dept. uniform in a PUBLIC place.  If you said bad things about your boss to his face, don&#39;t you think you would face repurcussions?  Well, that is exactly what Officer Cousins did &#8211; by saying those things he did in PUBLIC, he said them directly to his boss&#39; (the PUBLIC) face.  Get it?  </p>
<p>Consider a different situation, Heavy D.  Say a public school principal, district attorney, judge, teacher, city councilman, etc. was caught on video in a similar situation.  You don&#39;t think that public servant would be judged by the public at large?  I have a feeling that you are the type that would be first to jump on that bandwagon, questioning that public servant&#39;s conduct, professionalism, and lack of judgment and how they should not be allowed to continue to pursue their profession.  Does the fact that we&#39;re talking about a police officer make any difference?  If it does, then you just aren&#39;t getting the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was not. Thanks for that heads up. I wonder if they&#039;ll prosecute that. If they do and he&#039;s found guilty then his contract will determine if he&#039;s to be fired. Where I work you get counseling.  BUT he should not be fired for what he says while he&#039;s off duty and not in uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not. Thanks for that heads up. I wonder if they&#39;ll prosecute that. If they do and he&#39;s found guilty then his contract will determine if he&#39;s to be fired. Where I work you get counseling.  BUT he should not be fired for what he says while he&#39;s off duty and not in uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re aware, but Cousins admitted to Chief Franklin that he drove home drunk from the bar that night. So yes, he is guilty of drunk driving - Not in a legal sense however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure if you&#39;re aware, but Cousins admitted to Chief Franklin that he drove home drunk from the bar that night. So yes, he is guilty of drunk driving &#8211; Not in a legal sense however.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he was convicted of drunk driving? WOW! I hadn&#039;t heard that. That whole &#039;innocent until proven guilty&#039; line is fun to play!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously I don&#039;t see how off duty conduct that is legal can get you fired unless your contract allows for stuff like &quot;conduct unbecoming&quot; or something like the NFL has. I couldn&#039;t find any information on who was arrested for Jennings murder because I&#039;d like to here why he did it. I also wonder if they did a tox screen at autopsy to see if he was using. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IF we do accept that we expect our cops to show inscrutable  behavior 24/7 I sure hope we pay them more for it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me his behavior that night isn&#039;t as bad as how this whole thing is being handled by the politicians and the police department. Yet again Erie makes national news for something bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he was convicted of drunk driving? WOW! I hadn&#39;t heard that. That whole &#39;innocent until proven guilty&#39; line is fun to play!</p>
<p>Seriously I don&#39;t see how off duty conduct that is legal can get you fired unless your contract allows for stuff like &#8220;conduct unbecoming&#8221; or something like the NFL has. I couldn&#39;t find any information on who was arrested for Jennings murder because I&#39;d like to here why he did it. I also wonder if they did a tox screen at autopsy to see if he was using. </p>
<p>IF we do accept that we expect our cops to show inscrutable  behavior 24/7 I sure hope we pay them more for it. </p>
<p>For me his behavior that night isn&#39;t as bad as how this whole thing is being handled by the politicians and the police department. Yet again Erie makes national news for something bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said don&#039;t assume the police officer is INNOCENT - I said don&#039;t give them the benefit of the doubt, meaning don&#039;t assume that every arrest is warranted. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If, for instance, someone is falsely accused of a crime and is arrested based on those accusations, do you give the benefit of the doubt to the officer that they took a criminal off of the street, before they&#039;ve even been able to defend themselves? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And no, he didn&#039;t disrespect the deceased man in front of his family&#039;s face. But he did do it in a public place, with others watching him. His judgement was obviously impaired, but you know what they say about alcohol - it&#039;s truth serum. Also, he drove home drunk, which he&#039;s probably pulled other people over for. He has no respect for those he is charged to protect and places a double standard on the laws he is to uphold. He is not fit to be a police officer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said don&#39;t assume the police officer is INNOCENT &#8211; I said don&#39;t give them the benefit of the doubt, meaning don&#39;t assume that every arrest is warranted. </p>
<p>If, for instance, someone is falsely accused of a crime and is arrested based on those accusations, do you give the benefit of the doubt to the officer that they took a criminal off of the street, before they&#39;ve even been able to defend themselves? </p>
<p>And no, he didn&#39;t disrespect the deceased man in front of his family&#39;s face. But he did do it in a public place, with others watching him. His judgement was obviously impaired, but you know what they say about alcohol &#8211; it&#39;s truth serum. Also, he drove home drunk, which he&#39;s probably pulled other people over for. He has no respect for those he is charged to protect and places a double standard on the laws he is to uphold. He is not fit to be a police officer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do you know he was a drug dealer? I&#039;d like to know what criteria brought this revelation to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do you know he was a drug dealer? I&#39;d like to know what criteria brought this revelation to you.</p>
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